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believe we can get that majority. i was encouraged to hear that speaker boehner agree that tax revenue has to be part of this equation. so i look forward to hearing his ideas when i see him next week. and let me make one final point that every american needs to hear. right now, if congress fails to come to an agreement on an overall deficit reduction package by the end of the year, everybody's taxes will automatically go up on january 1st. >> let's bring in our chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin. let's move the story a little bit. the president is going to on a trip overseas but he's got to get involved deeply in negotiation. his top aides will be meeting with the republicans on the hill. >> in the coming days the president has invited the leaders of the house and the senate, to talk about these negotiations and begin basically laying out where each side stands. right now what we know is that the major sticking point is over this tax rate for the top earners. the president as you just heard saying the tax rates for those making $250,000 and up must increase. house republicans
wants tax cuts for the wealthy to extire. house speaker john boehner drawing this line in the sand. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> white house correspondent brianna keilar is live from washington, d.c. for us this morning. brianna, speaker boehner seemed to be offering the president on olive branch earlier this week when he talked about the possibility of increasing revenue. but here he's taking a hard stance against tax increases. what does that say about the chances of a compromise? >> well, it may actually sound kind of like it's splitting hairs. but it's really two different things where he's talking about increasing tax rates. he says he's not okay with that. but he would be maybe okay, maybe amenable to increasing revenue. to bringing in more tax dollars, because there is a difference. and what he's saying is part of a chorus of conciliatory language that we're hearing from democrats and republicans on the hill. listen to more of what john boehner said in that interview. >> -- talk a
. and they feel that they have hopefully the potential for a bargaining partner in speaker boehner and the opportunity to reach a deal because both sides do want to avoid the fiscal cliff. at the same time, the president and democratic team recognizes and believes they have leverage now. in the worst case, while it would be going off part of the cliff, if the bush tax cuts expire, then all the tax rates go up and everybody will be forced into a position to renegotiate the tax rates. so while they're not saying that from the white house, that does give the president a position of extreme negotiating force and he can really make some serious demands. they don't want that, they are not saying that that's where they're headed, but we all know that that's what stands out there as the threat and it's a serious forcing mechanism that gives the president a lot of leverage in these deals if speaker boehner won't come his way. >> but all of that politics. you know what's so interesting? there's all these politics being played but companies and people need the certainty of how much is going t
. tonight house speaker boehner ruled out any deal that lets any tax rates go up. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> vice president biden told reporters that democrats gave a clear mandate that promises the same over and over again. >> another tax cut that favors the wealthy is not change. i won't turn medicare into a voucher to pay for another millionai millionaire's tax cut. i want to make sure that the wealthiest households pay a little more. >> keeping them honest, voters did vote in the popular vote. they increased the democratic lead in the senate. however, they preserve republican control of the house. no matter how ugly you think the tone in washington has been over the last four years, no matter how childishly you think a lot of lawmakers have acted, on a structural level who controls what, may be less change than meets the eye which is why what you will hear in coming weeks will sound less like this. >> everything doesn't have to be a fight. everything doesn't have to be a fight. >> more like this. more like each side getting ready for an epic fight. >> i do not think w
boehner ruled out any deal that lets any tax rates go up. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> vice president biden, meantime, told reporters off camera the voters gave democrats a clear mandate on taxes by re-electing a president who promised the following over and over again. >> another $5 trillion tax cut that favors the wealthy is not change. i'm not going to turn medicare into a voucher just to pay for another millionaire's tax cut. i'm going to lower taxes for middle class folks. let's also make sure the wealthiest households pay a little bit more. >> keeping them honest, americans did vote for that by a slim majority in the popular vote and comfortable majority in the electoral college. they also increased the democratic lead in the senate. however, they preserve republican control of the house so no matter how ugly you think the tone in washington has been over the last four years, no matter how childishly you think a lot of lawmakers have acted on a structural level, who controls wha
congressional leaders in both parties to talk about his agenda. house speaker john boehner responded this afternoon. >> and for this to work, we need to plan for a serious process. focus on substance, not on the at it will require week of work rather than a weekend of photo op. it won't happen around a campfire at camp david or as much i'd like over 18 holes of golf. i think this is going to take time, but if we're all striving for a solution, i'm confident we can get one. >> chris van hollen, a member of the supercommittee on deficit reduction. he knows a lot. good to see you in person. >> it's great to be here. >> we're all running on fumes and now, we have to get on those fumes and solve this problem because the market is right. it is a crisis and it has to be dealt with. what i don't understand is, a little change in the senate, but -- why is it going to happen now. >> first of all, a lot of the republicans in congress have been focused primarily, maybe we can move beyond that objective. the second is the structure of the situation. the cliff creates big risks, also, opportunitie
john boehner talking about the fact on the issue that has divided them on the fiscal cliff issue saying clearly that he does not want to raise taxes. he did say that maybe he would be for some kind of raising some kind of revenue. he didn't say what that means but talked about broad tax reform. on the other side of the capital. you saw right there the senate majority leader harry reid feeling like he has leverage here, it was a clear-cut issue, but also because of the mechanics of it. if nobody does anything, taxes will go up. so democrats realize that, they feel like they are probably right. democrats realize that. >> and there is motivation to do something. >> absolutely. >> there was a private conference call that boehner had with his caucus. what do you know about it? >> we were told this was a call where all house republicans were on it. he was sober and he tried to buck everyone up and said that s we are the last line of defense from an american that barack obama would design. he also had a clear message for rank and file. hold your fire. i need to have running room. i need to hav
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center, of course there was a but, you heard john boehner in particular, talking about the fact that on the issue that has divided them over the past year or so on this fiscal cliff issue, taxes, saying very clearly he does not want to raise taxes. but he also put out an olive branch, anderson, he said maybe he would be for some kind of -- raising some kind of revenue. he didn't say what that means but talked about broad tax reform as it relates to entitlement reform. on the other side of the capital, you saw right over there, the senate majority leader harry reid feeling like he was leveraging here, it was a clear-cut issue, but also because of the mechanics of it. if nobody does anything, taxes for everybody will go up. so democrats realize that, they feel like any have leverage and they're probably right. >> and there's motivation to try to do something on that. >> exactly. >> there was a private conference call that boehner had with his caucus. what do you know about it? >> we were told this was a call where all house republicans were invited to this. he was very sober and h
, we saw the house speaker, republican, john boehner, said quote, everything on the revenue side and on the sp spending side has to be looked at but when it comes to specifics he put the ball firmly in barack obama's court. >> i don't want to box myself in or anyone else in. i think it is important for us to come to an dpe agreement with the president but this is his opportunity to lead. >> here to sort what call of this must mean, we have all angles covered, including from the white house ahead of this daily briefing. we have jessica yellin, athena jones and ali velshi in new york. let me begin with you. we were watching the president walk in the east room. i noticed standing ovation. the energy in the room. the president pulled out his own pen saying yes, i'm ready to sign the bill flanked by marylandle class americans. when it comes to middle-clax tax cuts it sounds like the president is sticking to his guns. >> his terms are fairly stark. he's willing to negotiate on entitlements, medicare, medicaid. the white house democrats consider that a huge give the democratic party but
congress acts. president obama and house speaker john boehner picked up where they left off in dualing public appearances where both sounded consillatory, but didn't seem to budge much. must add to the president's to do list one more thing. he needs a cia director after general david petraeus resigned admitting to an extramarital affair. joining me now is robert menendez, later chairman of the house homeland security committee. good morning, senator. it's good to see you. let me start out with the petraeus matter. do you believe that this is -- leaves a big hole in military or intelligence operations or can they carry on smoothly? >> well, mike morrell, the second in charge, i think, is an excellent individual, has the president's confidence and can carry on in the interim. i don't feel general petraeus was a tremendous asset at the cia. it's unfortunate. i respect his decision under the circumstances. in the interim i believe the agency continued to function under mr. morrell. >> what kind of holes will this leave? >> i have questions about the whole matter. first of all -- excuse me
with members of congress. we saw him already reach out by phone to john boehner, to mitch mcconnell, also to leadership in the democratic party. so we'll see if this promise of bipartisanship will last beyond just a couple of days. >> dan lothian for us this morning. thank you, dan. let's get right to john berman with a lack at some of the other stories making news today. good morning. >> good morning, soledad. cnn is projecting that ann kirkpatrick will return to congress. she barely beat republican challenger, jonathan payton. yet several house races are still up for grabs across the country this morning. in palm springs, california, republican mary bono mack, she's not giving up. she trailed democrat raul luis with all precincts reporting, but she says a large number of ballots have yet to be reported. mack's husband, connie mack, lost his bid in florida to bill nelson. in another tight race, alan west is not conceding defeat. he's demanding a partial recount in his re-election bid against democratic challenger patrick murphy. right now murphy has a very slim lead of less than 2,100 vo
with john boehner, the senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. is he planning on sitting down with those two republican leaders any time soon? is the white house saying? >> reporter: there's nothing announced for a leaders meeting so far. but i am certain, wolf, that that will be coming because there's such important negotiations ahead. i'm told that the president's conversation with speaker boehner was courteous, it was brief. and i'm told that they also discussed the importance of keeping their public statements vague or general enough so that they leave themselves enough private negotiating room to get a deal done to avoid the fiscal cliff, wolf. >> that's probably smart too. thanks very much for that, jessica. let's dig a little bit deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. isn't his responsibility right now though to take the first step, offer a proposal to boehner, to mcconnell, to the republicans? we assume that the democrats, nancy pelosi would go along and harry reid would go along with the president. >> well, i think as jessica's saying, the president bel
boehner are mutually exclusive. but it is key that speaker boehner said, revenue increase is on the table. because while the tax rate, he doesn't want that to go up, there may be a way to finagle it, if you eliminate deductions, for instance, close loopholes, get ready of some tax credits, you could actually make some folks effective tax rates higher without actually increasing the tax rate of the bracket that they're in. but at the same time, these are all just sort of ideas and speculation that we have, ashleigh, and we really are not to the point where we can really game out exactly what this is going to look like. >> so 1:00 p.m. eastern you're on duty waiting and watching for those remarks. and trust me when i say this. you look like you're not at the white house. you look like you're at the greenough owe i don't know what -- >> reporter: they're actually planting trees here. >> that's nice. >> reporter: so there is some change here at the white house. and, yes, the truck parked right behind me. >> change you can believe in, brianna keillar. thank you. we'll see you at 1:00. and you
not include a tax increase for the wealthiest americans, suzanne. >> jessica, we heard boehner, john boehner, actually within the last 30 minutes or so talking about that there are ways to raise revenue and spending cuts as well in a all options are on the table. do you think the white house sees that as some sort of opening, if you will, to negotiations? >> i think both sides are hopeful there is wiggle room for negotiations. everybody knows that something has to get done because the economy will take such a serious hit if it doesn't. here is where i see the battle line right now. republicans on capitol hill tell me they are willing to raise revenue. that's a big change. they are willing to raise revenue, but without a change in the tax rates. the president has said that the highest earning americans have to pay more. congressional republicans saying no change to the tax rates. that's a big difference of opinion. they'll have to find a way to bridge that divide. beyond that, they're willing to compromise on entitlements. they're willing to find cuts, so there does seem to be room for compro
steinhouser is following all the developments. >> you were just showing pictures of house speaker john boehner, the top republican in congress, and harry reid, the senate majority leader, he's the top democrat in congress. they came before our cameras yesterday in washington, john. they did talk about the election being a voice from the american voters for a call for compromise. and you heard both men talking about working together to fix the country's problems along with the president. but at the same time, you also heard both men laying down markers and both men disagreeing on whether whether it comes to the fiscal cliff the wealthy should be taxed. take a look at what they said. >> it won't solve the problem of our fiscal imbalance overnight. certainly won't do it in a lame duck session of congress. and it won't be solved simply by raising taxes or taking a plunge off the fiscal cliff. >> the vast majority of the american people rich, poor, everybody agrees that the rich, richest of the rich have to help a little bit. >> another disagreement, john boehner the house speaker talking about doi
with congressional leaders to discuss the so-called fiscal cliff. both the president and house speaker boehner said they are open to compromise, but tax hikes on the rich are a sticking point. >>> number three, the teen girl shot in the head by the taliban for trying to go to school in pakistan is now walking and reading and writing and smiling. this is new video of malali youssufzai. she received international support and thousands of get-well cards. today marks one month since the attack. >>> people who were made homeless by superstorm sandy are finding some relief courtesy of fema. fema has set up a temporary shelter camp in new jersey that looks like a massive tent city. it houses more than 200 people affected by the storm, as well as thousands of utility workers and first responders. thousands of them. but fema officials say sandy evacuees will be moved into better housing this week. >>> number five now, the ceo of the popular southern restaurant chain waffle house has been accused of sexual improprieties by his former assistant. she is accusing him of "performing sexual services including ina
in taxes. >> so that was the president, and here's speaker boehner. >> on wednesday, i outlined a responsible path forward to avert the fiscal cliff without raising tax rates. about 24 hours after i spoke, the congressional budget office released a report showing the most harmful consequences of the fiscal cliff come from increasing tax rates. >> what speaker boehner did not mention was the cbo report said raising the top rate would only shave 1% of 10% off economic growth and only temporarily. those were the two open conditions in washington's showdown since the disaster. budget negotiators reconvene next week to try, in the words of one aide, to assess where they are. that's what puts republicans where they are in election 2012. it depends on who you ask or how you ask the question, what happened on tuesday night? gop strategist mary matalin, and david fromm, author of "why romney lost and what the gop can do about it." president obama and speaker boehner have said a lot of right things talking about compromise and cooperation, but on taxes, it seems the gap between the two si
and mr. obama to the white house, both the president and house speaker john boehner vowed to find some common ground. >> well, clearly the deficit is a drag in our economy and we can't continue to spend money that we don't have. i don't want p to box myself in. i don't want to box anybody else in. i think it's important for us to come to an agreement with the president but this is his opportunity to lead. >> i want to be clear, i'm not we hadd wedded to every detail of my plan. i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. i'm committed to solving our fiscal challenges. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> joining us now is a man who knows all about bipartisanship and compromise. former senator george mitchell is joining us. you were majority leader from 1989 to '95 during a time when senators and house members were actually friends. and i mean those on opposite sides of the party. so do you think the president and the house speaker's words this go around really will lead to some compromise or has a new page been turned here? are you encouraged? >> i'm hopeful a
to be back where we started on the edge of a fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker john boehner haven't budged. yesterday we heard of talk of olive branches and reaching across the aisle. but this evening speaker bonner said this to abc news. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> he could be right about that. he's talking about raising tax rates. jessica yellin reminded us today that the white house has vowed to veto any bill that doesn't extend the bush tax cuts for families making $250,000, less than $250 a year. he's been very explicit. tax rates will be raised for people who make more than that amount of money. so how did the president respond to john boehner's line in the sand? well we haven't heard from him since he returned to washington yesterday. we were told though by the white house this evening he'll make a statement on the fiscal cliff tomorrow but as far as what we know right now the administration says the president has already laid out his plan. it's a plan he says would cut the defi
's spending plan is higher tax rates for the wealthy. that's something that house speaker john boehner doesn't seem to be buying. listen. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it could pass the senate. >> without a budget compromise, drastic cuts amendmently kick in. that, of course, could send the economy spiraling back into a recession. white house correspondent brianna keilar is live for us this morning from washington. john boehner was the guy who said he didn't think a lame duck congress could do big things. what can be done in the next, what did i say, 53 days? >> well, maybe finding some sort of stopgap measure. some sort of framework on tax reform, soledad. i think that's the goal here. the fact is, house republicans and president obama and senate democrats, they don't really have a choice. they have to do something, and that became very clear yesterday when the cbo put out a report showing that if the country goes over the fiscal cliff you're looking at economic calamity. you're looking at unemployment ticking up, perhaps t
the president and republican lawmakers really find compromise? house speaker john boehner says he's ready to talk. >> talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. so, brianna, what do you expect president obama to say in this afternoon's remarks? >> reporter: carol, i think this is really going to be him sort of setting the scene and explaining to the american people what is at stake here, some of the things that christine outlined. we know that yesterday the cbo, congressional budget office put out a report saying that really the stakes here, that you could see the country sink into recession next year if we went off the fiscal cliff, that the unemployment rate could jump almost 2%. these are very serious things. this is post election. president obama's chance to kind of turn people's attention to this. and to urge congress to work together and to act. you
wants. i think john boehner was very clear that everything is on the table with respect to revenue reductions -- revenue increases as well as spending reductions, but there are certain things that aren't. and i think what john boehner said is right, we should not be increasing tax rates on businesses in america. so i think you're going to look at it from the standpoint of can we tighten the tax code, limit deductions? there are things we can do to simplify the code that will result in more revenue because it will result in more growth. i think republicans absolutely should put those things on the table and revenue certainly should be part of the deal. >> some people are blaming you for mitt romney's failure, and i'll explain to you why. >> i wish i had such power here that i could be blamed for these things. >> allow me to elaborate. what they're saying is if he hadn't been pushed into fairly right wing quite extreme positions in his battle against the likes of you early this year for the public nominee race, then he wouldn't have gotten himself in this unholy mess of being branded
way to do this and a wrong way and speaker boehner was right that you have to have revenue on the table but that does not mean raising taxes. >> clearly we have the ability between now and the end of the year to not go off the cliff but we can't accept an unfair deal that piles all of this on the middle class and tells them they have to support it. >> now, of course there is room for compromise. raising taxes on the wealthy by closing loopholes instead of the tax rates, that maybe would please republicans on the democratic side maybe. they are saying you kind of are redefine wealth altogether so that maybe tack rates for those making half a million or a million dollars a year go up. we'll see how this goes, as you said, congress will be back tomorrow and there will be a big meeting at the white house on friday with the president. >> and what about the gang of eight, the four republicans and four democrats who have decided to get back to the hard negotiating? what can we make of them returning to the effort? >> you know what, they are all trying hard. they are going to have
to the decision of who pays more tax, who pays less tax and what benefits stay or goes away. john boehner, the speaker of the house, says republicans will accept higher tax revenues but not higher taxes. huh? more when we come back. ♪ ♪ and the flowers and the trees all laugh when you walk by ♪ ♪ and the neighbors' kids... what does being true to yourself have to do with being healthy? everything. ♪ but you're not ♪ you're the one ♪ one, one, one, one, one ♪ the one ♪ one, one, one, one, one ♪ the one ♪ one, one, one... >>> the stakes couldn't be higher. if the united states goes over the fiscal cliff, taxes will rise for nearly 88% of americans next year. we're talking about an average increase of $3500 per household. at the same time, $100 billion in automatic across the board spending cuts will take effect, half in defense, half in non-defense, and a million jobs could be lost. unemployment will jump back to 9% next year and the u.s. economy could be plunged back into recession. avoiding the fiscal cliff will require compromise, something that's been in short supp
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speaker john boehner say they are willing to negotiate. but tax hikes are a sticking point. president obama will meet with congressional leaders on the issue next week. >>> and in florida, it is all over, but the vote count, as the state tries to finalize its tally of the presidential election. unofficial results are due to the secretary of state by noon today. cnn has yet to project a winner, but president obama enjoys a 60,000 vote lead over mitt romney. >>> happy birthday to all the men and women serving in the marines around the world. today marks the 237th anniversary for the u.s. marine corps. they were founded in 1775. now, to celebrate, some will have birthday cake, some will hold special ceremonies, others will raise money for charity. >>> in washington state, prosecutors are throwing out 175 marijuana possession cases, that's because on tuesday voters there passed a ballot initiative that legalizes pot, so prosecutors in two counties, including seattle, drop cases that would no longer be punishable under the new law. the law technically doesn't take effect, though, until nex
'm not going to do that. >> house speaker john boehner, likewise, struck a conciliatory tone drawing a hard line on tax hikes but saying everything is up for negotiation. >> well, clearly, the deficit is a drag on our economy and we can't continue to spend money that we don't have. i, i don't want to box myself in, yet alone box anybody else in. i think it's important for us to come to an agreement with the president, but this is his opportunity to lead. >> the senate has already passed legislation that would raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 while preserving the bush tax cuts for the middle class. >>> staying with politics, there's still no call in the presidential election in florida where officials continue to sort through ballots and a bid to finalize the vote tallies. cnn has yet to project a winner but yet with 97% of precincts reporting president obama has a 64,000 vote lead over mitt romney. unofficial results must be submitted by noon today. when it comes to the national popular vote, the president's margin of vktry has now increased. he holds a 51% to 48% edge over go
but democrats as well, the president reaching out to speaker boehner by phone and mitch mcconnell in the senate and to democratic leadership. the president telling them that he is committed to finding a bipartisan solution to some of the tough problems, such as cutting taxes for middle class americans, creating jobs. what's unclear at this point is what else will the president do beyond making phone calls? will he be invoighting the leadership here to the wit house? will they be having retreats elsewhere? what is cloer is already up on capitol hill the loweredship is talking about getting things done. >> by working together and creating a fairer, simpler, cleaner tax code we can give our country a stronger, healthier economy. a stronger economy means more revenue, which is what the president seeks. >> this isn't something that i'm going to draw the lines any lines in the sand. he isn't going to draw any lines in the sand, i don't believe. we need to work together. >> the president said he believes the message that the americans sent in the election is that they want members of congress, both pa
in taxes. i'm not going to do that. >> speaker john boehner, like wise, struck a tone and drawing a hard line saying everything is up for negotiation. >> clearly, the deficit is a drag on our economy. and we can't continue to spend money we don't have. i don't want to box myself in or anybody else in. i think it's important for us to come to an agreement for the president, but this is his opportunity to lead. >> the senate has already passed legislation that would raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 while preserving the bush tax cuts for the middle class. the latest now on tuesday's election. the president's margin of victory has now increased. he now has a 51% edge over romney in the national popular vote. that is up from a tie that we saw on election night. but down in florida, they are still counting the ballots. officials have until noon today to submit unofficial results to the secretary of state. cnn has yet to project a winner there, but with 97% of precincts reporting, president obama has a lead over romney. the romney campaign has conceded the race in florida. and for
boehner, basically had a deal in place, it ended up getting blown up at the last minute. i think there is a, perhaps, a new conciliation on both sides. i think they were waiting for the election to get over. i think the attitudes are positive on both sides. and i think they've got the framework for a deal already set up from last year. so i don't think that there are any closer but i also don't think they were that far away last year in 2011. >> do you think that closing the loopholes would be enough for a deficit reduction package? >> it doesn't appear that that's going to raise enough revenue to get to where the democrats want that to be. republicans say they don't want to raise rates. there are some -- there's some budget chicanery that can go on in terms of dealing with one baseline instead of another baseline. that's what it looked like boehner wanted to do last year. there are a lot of different options here. it's interesting, bill kristol from the weekly standard appeared to be talking to grover norquist, the anti-tax activist in those comments that he played earlier, talk
if not paralyzed to regenerate itself and get stuff done. speaker boehner has come out and said, mr. president, let's get some stuff going here. how much of the responsibility lays with him and speaker boehner? >> people want cooperation on both sides. the issue at hand will be the fiscal cliff and our budgetary situation. the president's put a proposal forward, it's incumbent on the speaker to say, what they would be willing to do and not simply say, it's not our responsibility. irthi i think people expect everyone to live up to their responsibilities. and one thing that is clear as i moved around the country with the president is that they're hungry for that kind of cooperation. i hope that people will come with a renewed sense of cooperation. because it will take that to solve problems. let me just say one other thing, though, you mentioned that not much has changed. actually what is interesting is you have these super pacs spending literally billions of dollars to defeat the president and democrats running for congress. well, the president was re-elected. you have more democrats in the senate t
. but no such evolution on the issue of o taxes. both boehner and mitch mcconnell said taxes will not go up, period. >> think you're missing the second part of the sentence which is they're willing to consider new revenue. there are lots of ways, excuse the expression, to skin a cat. i thought john boehner was emphatic when he said they're willing to open it with the right framework. thing this is a two-step deal. i think it's too ambitious with too little time to get to the grand bargaining, the so-called lame duck session of the continuation. but i think you can scrape together enough to avoid sigh kwenltd strain. remember, they have to come up with only about $100 bill to set that aside. between spending cuts and loophol loopholes, i think you have to raise that. >> onpodesta, does the magts work, though, which is if you close produkz for the wealthy people, can you raise enough revenue? >> i think that's the fund mental question. >> well, i thnk the -- you know, this baurng the really contentious issue in the campaign. i think the only way do that is to take enough of a bite out of the plan. >>
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